In conversation with Hans Ulrich Obrist, artist Charles Atlas reminisces about starting out in the NYC underground drag scene of the 1970s, and collaborating with the likes of Merce Cunningham, Michael Clark, and Leigh Bowery. Reinterpreted through the lens of photographer Charlie Engman, his lexicon is one of raw energy and omnivorous imagination, spanning from docu-fantasy to mathematics, from TV to TikTok.